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August 2, 2013 - U2 7-pack, Cursive, Fall Out Boy, Nightwish


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#1 pksage

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Posted August 2, 2013 - 02:00 PM

Blog post: August 2, 2013 – U2 7-pack plus Nightwish, Fall Out Boy, and Cursive!

Use this thread to provide feedback on any of the following songs:
  • Cursive - "The Martyr" (thewinnerisgeeg)
  • Fall Out Boy - "Tell That Mick He Made My List of Things to Do Today" (uSound)
  • Nightwish - "Nemo" (RyanHYK)
  • U2 - "I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For" (Ollie)
  • U2 - "New Year's Day" (Ollie)
  • U2 - "One" (Ollie)
  • U2 - "Pride (In the Name of Love)" (Ollie)
  • U2 - "Sunday Bloody Sunday" (Ollie)
  • U2 - "Where the Streets Have No Name" (Ollie)
  • U2 - "With or Without You" (Ollie)
Please use this thread for feedback and general discussion. To report a bug or other issue with these songs, visit the C3 Bug Tracker.

#2 Infra-Man

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Posted August 2, 2013 - 02:18 PM

Love it!! U2 with all my favorites! I can finally get my Irish gig on :-)

C3 Customs ROCK!!!

#3 KiiNgxUnKnoWn

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Posted August 2, 2013 - 02:27 PM

Thanks to all the creators for these awesome songs, you guys rock! :c00l:
Wishlist:
Cage the Elephant - (Anything)
Blue October - (Hate me, Into the Ocean)
Beyonce - (Anything)
Coldplay - (Anything)
System of a Down - (Anything)

#4 RevengeFan

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Posted August 2, 2013 - 03:28 PM

U2! Awesome!
Is the Nightwish song a From the Vault release? I know I already have it. Not sure where it came from.

#5 pksage

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Posted August 2, 2013 - 05:18 PM

U2! Awesome!
Is the Nightwish song a From the Vault release? I know I already have it. Not sure where it came from.

Nope! There's an old one out there by DeadCanadian and TrojanNemo, but this week's release was authored 100% by RyanHYK.

#6 StackOverflow0x

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Posted August 2, 2013 - 08:31 PM

Wow, U2 is definitely one of those big artists missed by RB. Plus, they've got lots of recognizable hits. I've actually wanted Bloody Sunday for some time. I just wonder why that backing string instrument wasn't charted to Keys, as was my assumption.

And also, the Wii convert for the week. I know I'll be using it.

#7 Moostache

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Posted August 2, 2013 - 11:29 PM

Holy.....(passed out).....THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH!!!!
I have been dying for U2 releases since the original Guitar Hero games! Great selection that I cannot wait to play tonight. I can't thank you guys enough!

#8 ws54

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Posted August 3, 2013 - 03:02 AM

I don't want to be a discouragement, but the vocals on the U2 pack could all use another pass to add slides where they are missing (for example, the word "Love" in "One" during the preview video,) lengthen slides that are too short, and correct some wrong notes ("We're" as in "We're one".) Sorry I couldn't be a play-tester on this pack. Nevertheless, a pack of 7 songs is still a huge accomplishment! But please consider improving them some more. This is U2 after all.

Vocals are the hardest thing to chart and can be a real pain sometimes and are very time consuming. I'm by no means the best vocal charter, but I think this is the primary area of customs that needs to be brought up to higher standards.

#9 Farottone

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Posted August 3, 2013 - 10:12 AM

I don't want to be a discouragement, but the vocals on the U2 pack could all use another pass to add slides where they are missing (for example, the word "Love" in "One" during the preview video,)


Are saying this just by watching the video or did you play the songs?

#10 espher

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Posted August 3, 2013 - 11:13 AM

I don't want to be a discouragement, but the vocals on the U2 pack could all use another pass to add slides where they are missing (for example, the word "Love" in "One" during the preview video,) lengthen slides that are too short, and correct some wrong notes ("We're" as in "We're one".) Sorry I couldn't be a play-tester on this pack. Nevertheless, a pack of 7 songs is still a huge accomplishment! But please consider improving them some more. This is U2 after all.


The tracks were given a vocals pass after recording (I did six, pksage did one), though I'll admit that mine were rushed given I didn't have a ton of time. A lot of the timing/pitch issues were cleaned up, and I adjusted/added a few slides, but they certainly do still require another pass.

If you've got specific examples from the released tracks (and not the video), feel free to submit bug reports.

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#11 ws54

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Posted August 3, 2013 - 11:44 AM

There is way too much to fix to be specific without spending many, many hours on it. I like U2, but not that much. I played the songs in the game and not just the video, but the video demonstrates many of the problems and is a ready reference. Some songs are better than others and are playable. But my favorite "One" unfortunately is unplayable. I'd be happy to give that one extensive play-testing and maybe even provide fixes and detailed bug reports for it.

#12 TrojanNemo

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Posted August 3, 2013 - 12:29 PM

but the video demonstrates many of the problems and is a ready reference


No, no it is not. If you haven't been paying attention, the videos are only for demonstration purposes and may contain authoring errors that are typically, and in this case, were, fixed prior to release.

Try again.

#13 espher

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Posted August 3, 2013 - 12:32 PM

No, no it is not. If you haven't been paying attention, the videos are only for demonstration purposes and may contain authoring errors that are typically, and in this case, were, fixed prior to release.


(Mostly.)

I won't say it was a perfect clean-up, and playing "One" back this morning I do note a few spots that may be more problematic than others, but none should be combo breakers and the chart should certainly not be unplayable. I didn't get a chance to test the revised product in game, and will try to do so this afternoon, but if there's anything making it "unplayable" it should be patently obvious without being required to go over the .rpp with a fine-toothed comb, so please submit a bug report or in a pinch drop me a PM and I will look into it.

P.S. For reference for anyone else that does find issues with these charts:

  • Category / Song
    • Pick the song you're reporting bugs for. That's it!
    • If you're reporting a bug for RBHP or any song converted from Guitar Hero by GHtoRB3, use the appropriate categories. We don't list every one of those songs, because holy crap would there be a ton of them.
    • If you're experiencing issues that don't relate to a specific song, use the "Download / Web Issue" category.
  • Instrument / Issue
    • Pick the instrument or area this bug applies to. Categories that aren't instruments include "Metadata" (album art/etc.), "Tempo Map", and other stuff.
    • Please submit separate bug reports for issues on different instruments.
  • Summary
    • Enter a short and descriptive title for your bug.
    • Good summary: "Relative pitch issues during guitar solo"
    • Bad summary: "Guitar chart is wrong"
  • Description
    • This is it -- your chance to tell us what we did wrong. There are some important guidelines here.
    • Don't be a dick. We're humans, and this isn't a full-time job. No one likes having their song torn apart by the wolves, so be polite when reporting bugs.
    • Mention where in the song the issue occurs. While we appreciate hyper-specific times (like an MBT), "in the first verse" or "in the bridge" is good enough. If an issue repeats throughout the song, say something like "the pattern in the choruses".
    • Be as specific as possible! The more info you give us, the more likely your bug will be fixed, and fixed quickly.
    • A good description: "Near the beginning of the first chorus, the riff in Expert Guitar doesn’t seem to match the audio. I hear an extra note after the B O B hammer-ons. This pattern repeats throughout the song."
    • A good description: "In the second verse, the vocal tubes for the word ‘party’ are too long."
    • A bad description: "The drums are charted wrong in the chorus."
  • Upload File
    • If you want to be really awesome, you can extract the song's MIDI, fix the issue yourself in REAPER, and attach the fixed MIDI to your bug report.
    • You can also attach a screenshot of the error in REAPER, or even a photograph of it happening in-game, if you're so inclined.


We are aware that there are some issues, but there should be nothing game-breaking. Specific feedback will help us track down and address these issues, so please use the bug tracker and submit reports that are as detailed as possible. :)

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#14 Farottone

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Posted August 3, 2013 - 12:39 PM

Right. Why don't we take this to the playtesting or author discussions forums, since it's where discussions between authors should take place?

#15 ws54

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Posted August 3, 2013 - 12:41 PM

but the video demonstrates many of the problems and is a ready reference


No, no it is not. If you haven't been paying attention, the videos are only for demonstration purposes and may contain authoring errors that are typically, and in this case, were, fixed prior to release.

Try again.


Well, like I said, I also played all of these songs in the game since they were released. Using "One" as an example, the preview demonstrates the problems in general with the whole pack. Some songs are better than others, but those specific issues with "One" are still there.

#16 ws54

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Posted August 3, 2013 - 12:43 PM

Right. Why don't we take this to the playtesting or author discussions forums, since it's where discussions between authors should take place?


Yes, I agree. Sorry. When I wrote the initial comment I had clicked in the playtesters section and then on the thread not realizing the thread is not just limited to the play-testers section.

#17 espher

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Posted August 3, 2013 - 12:47 PM

Well, like I said, I also played all of these songs in the game since they were released. Using "One" as an example, the preview demonstrates the problems in general with the whole pack. Some songs are better than others, but those specific issues with "One" are still there.


Regarding the specific issue with "One" that you cited, unless the tempo is playing tricks on me, the lyric should have been shortened enough that the slide is just absent (blank space) rather than being assigned to the "wrong" pitch (by having no slide). I missed authoring the slide (because I thought it was too short, as had the volume turned down a bit on the source, which is certainly my fault) but I had shortened the tail to cut it off.

Vague criticisms of "there are things wrong with the vocals on this pack" aren't doing me, the original author, or you as a player any favours. :P

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#18 clintilona

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Posted August 3, 2013 - 09:19 PM

Thank you for this awesome U2 pack. It's pretty much every U2 song I could ever want in Rock Band other than Bullet the Blue Sky.
**Rock Band needs more Power Metal**

#19 Segin666

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Posted August 6, 2013 - 06:58 PM

Congratulations to customizers!
Never understood why not have songs in the U2 rock band!
U2 is a good band that was well represented in these costoms!!!

I hope that on 09/08 has very Heavy Metal!!

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