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#1 JCMGraphics

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Posted March 21, 2020 - 08:04 PM

First, thank you to everyone doing this. What an awesome site! I'd love to learn to make my own songs, maybe 1 day I'll understand lol. As a real drummer, I got bored playing on RB drums ( even with the cymbals ). So I took an old kit and went to town with it. Converted it to electronic and used my old electronic cymbals. Right away, it was a lot more fun but being a real drummer, I still struggled with a few notes. The open HH on the ride was messing me up and the yellow as a crash. So I added more to my kit. Added 2 more cymbals for yellow crash and added a ride next to my HH for the open notes and for fun added a rim shot lol.

So now the experience is absolutely amazing. We all play as a group ( drums, guitar, bass, keyboard, singer(s) and this drum kit feels " real ". So thought I'd share. Again, love what everyone is doing here. Let's hope I learn to make songs. dpL7aNt.jpg



#2 Atruejedi

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Posted March 22, 2020 - 01:10 AM

I wanna see this in action. Videos, please!


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Posted March 22, 2020 - 02:24 AM

Love this set up! I'd totally do this given the resources. It looks like it would be a blast. The rim registers on my e-kit without having to separate it so I just play on the rim (stick laid across the snare and all) when the song calls for it (see Natalie Merchant's Wonder for a good rim playing song). And when it clicks along on the kit just like in the song, it's truly magical.


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Posted March 22, 2020 - 03:17 AM

Awesome job, now we need to get you a decent sized TV  :smug:


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#5 moc_os

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Posted March 22, 2020 - 03:55 AM

where is the cowbell? 



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Posted March 22, 2020 - 09:41 AM

First of all, congrats for the great setup!

I just asked about the open hihat in the other thread because I didn't see this one first :) but now I see that you have a small extra "blue" cymbal next to the hihat for that. It's a shame that RB can in fact recognize open hihats but doesn't have an option for triggering blue notes with them, it came so close...

#7 manbeek

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Posted March 24, 2020 - 05:55 PM

I've had the Ion set since they came out and love them, and don't understand how anyone can have fun on the original toy set.  

You must absolutely love combining the real thumping sound with your toms and bass drum.  I'm jealous!!



#8 JCMGraphics

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Posted May 6, 2020 - 06:52 AM

I wanna see this in action. Videos, please!



#9 JCMGraphics

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Posted May 6, 2020 - 06:56 AM

Thanks. Sorry for the late reply. The kit has been apart since this post for renovations but it's back up. That little TV was temporarily lol. I play with a projector on 104". I've added another cymbal to the left to act as " green " and actually wrapped my cymbals in a dark camo pattern. I will take pics and yes, I'll also do a video soon. Thanks again for all the hard work you guys put into making the songs.

#10 hardcoredrummer

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Posted May 6, 2020 - 04:38 PM

First of all, congrats for the great setup!

I just asked about the open hihat in the other thread because I didn't see this one first :) but now I see that you have a small extra "blue" cymbal next to the hihat for that. It's a shame that RB can in fact recognize open hihats but doesn't have an option for triggering blue notes with them, it came so close...

the rb drums can't do this of course but ekits can. program the hi hat controller so down is yellow and up is blue. i've done this but there are very little songs where it's open long enough for the change in note. i have a dtx kit and i have shortest setting for the hi hat controller for open. it's one of those real hi hat stands. but for quick opens still doesn't do it fast enough. been thinking of getting just the pedal to see if there is any difference though. 

This of course works in rb3 but not in rb4. they changed the hi hat pedal settings. last i checked i had to unplug the controller cable i think or something like that....



#11 Shroud

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Posted May 6, 2020 - 05:55 PM

the rb drums can't do this of course but ekits can. program the hi hat controller so down is yellow and up is blue. i've done this but there are very little songs where it's open long enough for the change in note. i have a dtx kit and i have shortest setting for the hi hat controller for open. it's one of those real hi hat stands. but for quick opens still doesn't do it fast enough. been thinking of getting just the pedal to see if there is any difference though.

Well my eKit is so basic it's not programmable i.e. I cannot change the midi event triggered by an open hihat. But at least all other events are standard and work in the game.

But I don't understand the rest of your post. Do you mean that songs are so fast that opening the hihat with the pedal and then hitting doesn't send an open hihat note but a closed hihat note?

#12 hardcoredrummer

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Posted May 6, 2020 - 10:35 PM

Well my eKit is so basic it's not programmable i.e. I cannot change the midi event triggered by an open hihat. But at least all other events are standard and work in the game.

But I don't understand the rest of your post. Do you mean that songs are so fast that opening the hihat with the pedal and then hitting doesn't send an open hihat note but a closed hihat note?

sorry i should have said my ekit or some ekits are programmable and can do these things. and yes for your second part. not necessarily the song is too fast cause i play some slower ones but yes it doesn't switch to blue in time so it's still a yellow hit.

 

mine is a real working hi hat stand with the cymbal on top with like a sensor in the ring of the cymbal. works with pressure i think. so maybe i have to work with the height of the open hat or something but just a pedal might work better for the degrees of open and close....where is mine has to sense being off the stand ring...

 

personally i preferred gh open hats where they were a pause. only song on rb that does this is black hole sun - by soundgarden to my knowledge. the gaps are so big and perhaps cause it's the first game in the series that's how they were doing them back then. then someone come up with the idea of charting them blue. but nobody really makes the gap by taking a yellow out. so that's why i can't open and close it quick enough...so like the pic up top i have a blue beside my hi hate for open....works but you won't train your left leg timing but again this is a game that's not perfect...:)



#13 JCMGraphics

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Posted May 7, 2020 - 01:26 AM

sorry i should have said my ekit or some ekits are programmable and can do these things. and yes for your second part. not necessarily the song is too fast cause i play some slower ones but yes it doesn't switch to blue in time so it's still a yellow hit.
 
mine is a real working hi hat stand with the cymbal on top with like a sensor in the ring of the cymbal. works with pressure i think. so maybe i have to work with the height of the open hat or something but just a pedal might work better for the degrees of open and close....where is mine has to sense being off the stand ring...
 
personally i preferred gh open hats where they were a pause. only song on rb that does this is black hole sun - by soundgarden to my knowledge. the gaps are so big and perhaps cause it's the first game in the series that's how they were doing them back then. then someone come up with the idea of charting them blue. but nobody really makes the gap by taking a yellow out. so that's why i can't open and close it quick enough...so like the pic up top i have a blue beside my hi hate for open....works but you won't train your left leg timing but again this is a game that's not perfect...:)


I will try that with my pedal and see if it works. And since I played drums for many years before RB, it's automatic muscle memory for my foot to lift for open hi hat lol

#14 hardcoredrummer

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Posted May 7, 2020 - 06:10 AM

I will try that with my pedal and see if it works. And since I played drums for many years before RB, it's automatic muscle memory for my foot to lift for open hi hat lol

good stuff. what kit do you have ? i think the standard notes work with the adapter so even if you can't reprogram it could work perhaps. also for the foot thing i was referring to keeping time with it more than just opening it occasional for the blue. while doing like a tom groove or hitting the ride. i'm not the best at that but no song really does that to my knowledge a few do with a yellow showing up during snare rolls etc. i saw another post about a hi hat pattern with snares with the hi hat. it's either error a drum machine or probably the foot pedal....



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Posted May 7, 2020 - 07:26 AM

First, thank you to everyone doing this. What an awesome site! I'd love to learn to make my own songs, maybe 1 day I'll understand lol. As a real drummer, I got bored playing on RB drums ( even with the cymbals ). So I took an old kit and went to town with it. Converted it to electronic and used my old electronic cymbals. Right away, it was a lot more fun but being a real drummer, I still struggled with a few notes. The open HH on the ride was messing me up and the yellow as a crash. So I added more to my kit. Added 2 more cymbals for yellow crash and added a ride next to my HH for the open notes and for fun added a rim shot lol.

So now the experience is absolutely amazing. We all play as a group ( drums, guitar, bass, keyboard, singer(s) and this drum kit feels " real ". So thought I'd share. Again, love what everyone is doing here. Let's hope I learn to make songs. dpL7aNt.jpg

 

how much for you to replicate and ship to me?  :D



#16 JCMGraphics

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Posted May 7, 2020 - 06:31 PM

good stuff. what kit do you have ? i think the standard notes work with the adapter so even if you can't reprogram it could work perhaps. also for the foot thing i was referring to keeping time with it more than just opening it occasional for the blue. while doing like a tom groove or hitting the ride. i'm not the best at that but no song really does that to my knowledge a few do with a yellow showing up during snare rolls etc. i saw another post about a hi hat pattern with snares with the hi hat. it's either error a drum machine or probably the foot pedal....


At the moment, I'm just using the ion module. I have a bunch of drum modules here including the Alesis I/O, a Yamaha, an Alesis DM10. The drums are just an old CB kit I had and converted them to electronic. Where I'm having issues are the songs I play in real life lol. Muscle memory tells me to do a certain thing but the game wants me to do something else haha

#17 JCMGraphics

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Posted May 7, 2020 - 06:33 PM

 
how much for you to replicate and ship to me?  :D


Haha,,,, hard to put a price on this. I started with an old CB kit I wasn't using anymore and converted it to electronic. It's not hard, just time consuming.

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Posted May 8, 2020 - 06:45 AM

Haha,,,, hard to put a price on this. I started with an old CB kit I wasn't using anymore and converted it to electronic. It's not hard, just time consuming.

 

since I've been playing and charting customs for the last 6 years I think I'm in it for the long haul. Might as well have the kill to justify it all



#19 hardcoredrummer

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Posted May 8, 2020 - 06:35 PM

At the moment, I'm just using the ion module. I have a bunch of drum modules here including the Alesis I/O, a Yamaha, an Alesis DM10. The drums are just an old CB kit I had and converted them to electronic. Where I'm having issues are the songs I play in real life lol. Muscle memory tells me to do a certain thing but the game wants me to do something else haha

lol welcome to video game drumming! for years my non drummer friend who is just good at games i guess was always beating me at guitar hero drum duels...which i do miss...was like our own fight club for a while...

 

i would always mess my multiplier up with something i would just be accustom to hearing in the song. not that the charts weren't accurate. mostly it was my drum pedal being too sensitive and me being more into the song than playing it right...probably some showmanship there too...now i think i can take him! :) 



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Posted June 7, 2020 - 04:51 AM






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