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#1 JohnSmith2007

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Posted February 12, 2020 - 10:54 PM

Magma: C3 Roks Edition v3.3.3
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Build started at 4:45 PM
Bypassing Nemo's MIDI Validator based on your settings.
You can enable the MIDI Validator under Options -> ADVANCED SETTINGS

Nemo's MIDI AutoGen process started.
Added drum mix events successfully.
Generated fake pro keys tracks successfully.
Generated keys animation track successfully.
Exported modified MIDI file successfully. All done.
Nemo's MIDI AutoGen process completed.

Loading MagmaCompilerC3.exe...
Reading the archive
Project Compiler: Reading project 'C:\Users\smcco\Music\Customs i've made\Ron Wasserman - Power Rangers SPD (v.2.0) - Copy_project\magma.rbproj'...
Project Compiler: Entering Phase 1 of 5...
Metadata Compiler: Starting...
Metadata Compiler: Done.
Project Compiler: Entering Phase 2 of 5...
MIDI Compiler: Starting...
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [2:3:120]
This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [2:3:360]
This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [2:4:120]
This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [2:4:360]
This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [2:5:120]
This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [2:5:360]
This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [2:6:120]
This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [15:6:300]
This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [15:8:300]
This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [15:10:300]
This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [16:2:300]
This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [16:4:300]
This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [16:6:300]
This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Misaligned lyric at [19:8:240] (expected at [19:8:239])
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Missing lyric at [19:8:240]
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Missing vocal note at [1:1:000] for lyric ''
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Missing lyric at [1:1:000]
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Misaligned note at [21:1:000] (expected at [20:10:479])
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Missing lyric at [21:1:000]
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Vocal note at [1:7:000] is outside any phrases
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Vocal note at [7:5:000] is outside any phrases
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Vocal notes past end of last phrase are being discarded

 

 

Can't Magma be useful for once and not throw a bunch of shit at me that isn't true?!

How do I get Magma to shut the hell up and just export the song like it should be doing?!



#2 JohnSmith2007

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Posted February 12, 2020 - 11:09 PM

Magma: C3 Roks Edition v3.3.3
=============================
Build started at 4:45 PM
Bypassing Nemo's MIDI Validator based on your settings.
You can enable the MIDI Validator under Options -> ADVANCED SETTINGS
Nemo's MIDI AutoGen process started.
Added drum mix events successfully.
Generated fake pro keys tracks successfully.
Generated keys animation track successfully.
Exported modified MIDI file successfully. All done.
Nemo's MIDI AutoGen process completed.
Loading MagmaCompilerC3.exe...
Reading the archive
Project Compiler: Reading project 'C:\Users\smcco\Music\Customs i've made\Ron Wasserman - Power Rangers SPD (v.2.0) - Copy_project\magma.rbproj'...
Project Compiler: Entering Phase 1 of 5...
Metadata Compiler: Starting...
Metadata Compiler: Done.
Project Compiler: Entering Phase 2 of 5...
MIDI Compiler: Starting...
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [2:3:120]
This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [2:3:360]
This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [2:4:120]
This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [2:4:360]
This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [2:5:120]
This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [2:5:360]
This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [2:6:120]
This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [15:6:300]
This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [15:8:300]
This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [15:10:300]
This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [16:2:300]
This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [16:4:300]
This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Confused by vocal phrase overlap around [16:6:300]
This means you probably have a very short vocal phrase marker somewhere, zoom in on your project and check all your vocal phrase markers.
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Misaligned lyric at [19:8:240] (expected at [19:8:239])
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Missing lyric at [19:8:240]
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Missing vocal note at [1:1:000] for lyric ''
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Missing lyric at [1:1:000]
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Misaligned note at [21:1:000] (expected at [20:10:479])
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Missing lyric at [21:1:000]
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Vocal note at [1:7:000] is outside any phrases
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Vocal note at [7:5:000] is outside any phrases
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART VOCALS): Vocal notes past end of last phrase are being discarded


Can't Magma be useful for once and not throw a bunch of shit at me that isn't true?!
How do I get Magma to shut the hell up and just export the song like it should be doing?!



#3 Farottone

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Posted February 13, 2020 - 12:32 AM

You probably have overlapping notes in PART VOCALS or a very short phrase marker somewhere. You need to fix that, the error is there, just not at the measures Magma is telling you.



#4 Atruejedi

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Posted February 13, 2020 - 12:35 AM

Magma isn't going to compile something that is going to break your game. I understand your frustrations, but don't blame Magma. Magma is trying to help you! :)

 

Do you import your lyrics to directly attach them to your vocal tubes? If not, learn how to do that below (which I totally stole from elsewhere on the forums to send to bkloppenburg but right now I can't find the source to credit):

 

1. Make sure you have the Rock Band Network plugins installed for Reaper, then open the actions menu (on toolbar at top of window, select Actions > Show action list).

2. On the top right of the action list window there's a drop-down called "section". From this, select "Midi Event List Editor".

3. Search "Import lyrics for selected notes from file".

4. Create a shortcut to the action so you don't have to do this process every time! I think that default shortcut is SHIFT+L.

 

After that, I would delete all of your phrase markers and draw the tubes from scratch.


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#5 rubydanger

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Posted February 13, 2020 - 04:13 AM

It can be tricky when first using Magma, I know some vocal pros will be reaching out to help you.  Just hang in there and don't give up.  I had a hell of a time with Reaper and Magma at first, but now I am actually to a point where I feel I can help others.


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#6 EchoOfMystery

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Posted February 13, 2020 - 12:33 PM

...export the song like it should be doing?!

 

If you fix those errors, it sure will. Here are some possible solutions:

 

"Confused by vocal phrase overlap around X" probably means your phrase marker tubes are blending into each other. Try zooming in to see it clearly or rechart the markers.

 

"Misaligned lyric at X (expected at X)": your lyric events are not aligned with the note tubes. If moving them doesn't work (zoom in), delete it and insert it again.

 

"Vocal note at X is outside any phrases": There are no phrase markers above the vocal note tubes.

 

"Vocal notes past end of last phrase are being discarded": Adjust the phrase marker all the way to the last vocal note.



#7 Alternity

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Posted February 13, 2020 - 06:01 PM

Zooming in is kind of time consuming. You can see the MIDI event table with alt+3 and you'll see the exact location of every events.  You can also open the properties of an event and see/edit the exact location.



#8 JohnSmith2007

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Posted February 13, 2020 - 09:55 PM

Thats the thing though, Atruejedi. I already have the RBN plugin installed, and have tried that command. It didn't do jack shit.

 

also, I can't wrap my head around this, so I might as well just give y'all the files to see for yourself.

 

http://www.mediafire...j/Project_Files



#9 JohnSmith2007

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Posted February 13, 2020 - 09:58 PM

Here's the issue though, EchoOfMystery. I've looked through the track countless times to see I anything is out of place, but everything is in order.

 

see it for yourself.

 

http://www.mediafire...j/Project_Files



#10 Alternity

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Posted February 13, 2020 - 10:48 PM

Okay so just at first glance:

The "PART VOCALS" event is set as a Lyric, but it should be set as a Track Name.

Alot of vocal notes aren't in phrases.

I'm not going to compile it to see what else there is, but those are game breaking issues and easily fixable.

 

The first issue, simply change the event type to "Track Name".

 

Second issue, simply place vocal phrase markers for all the notes that are outside phrases.



#11 Atruejedi

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Posted February 14, 2020 - 01:00 AM

Thats the thing though, Atruejedi. I already have the RBN plugin installed, and have tried that command. It didn't do jack shit.

 

Did you bind the command to a key? It won't do anything "naturally" unless you bind SHIFT+L to be the key combo that imports lyrics. And you have to have your vocal tubes selected, of course.


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#12 rubydanger

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Posted February 14, 2020 - 01:58 AM

Well like Alternity said, there basically are only 6 phrase markers with the exception of whatever is going on in the very beginning.  Think of a phrase marker as marking an entire sentence, or phrase.  Something like this

 

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And every lyric MUST be in a phrase marker


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#13 rubydanger

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Posted February 14, 2020 - 02:24 AM

And the tracks are not the default template tracks so you cannot even load the color maps.  It appears as though you cut and pasted new tracks in and deleted the template tracks.

 

And actually, I believe if you use the template and the track included in the template, you don't need to bind the command, but if you use your own track, the Shift-L will not work.


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#14 JohnSmith2007

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Posted February 14, 2020 - 04:02 AM

ok, Thank you for the visual explanation. Now, is there a way to change the event type to "Track Name" without having to select each event individually to change it, and what row do you use for spoken words?



#15 EchoOfMystery

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Posted February 14, 2020 - 04:05 AM

You can see the MIDI event table with alt+3 and you'll see the exact location of every events.

 

There's always something to be learned. Thanks.



#16 Alternity

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Posted February 14, 2020 - 04:09 AM

You just need to change the first event, with "PART VOCALS" as content.



#17 rubydanger

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Posted February 14, 2020 - 12:20 PM

Just double click on PART VOCALS in the bottom row and then hit the down arrow where lyric is


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#18 TrojanNemo

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Posted February 14, 2020 - 02:40 PM

I love how the first reaction is always to blame Magma... when it's user-error 99% of the time.



#19 TrojanNemo

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Posted February 14, 2020 - 02:42 PM

No need to make two threads for the same issue. Merged them into one thread.



#20 Caserol23

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Posted February 14, 2020 - 06:15 PM

I love how the first reaction is always to blame Magma... when it's user-error 99% of the time.


hahaha, yeah you right :D

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