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Typical settings for W1 Limiter, and crowd noise


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#1 Shroud

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Posted July 30, 2019 - 02:29 PM

If I understand right, the purpose of the W1 Limiter plugin is to give an audio track more "punch" so that the instruments are better hearable in-game despite the crowd noise?

I don't know where to start here from :) what are the typical settings used for RB customs? Or do you normally have to go back and forth between Reaper and RB3 to make adjustments until you find the best balance between threshold, release and ceiling values?

In addition, is there a way to change the crowd noise volume either in-game, in the DTA file or in midi, in case it ends up drowning the song audio a bit too much?

Thanks!

#2 DemonUnicorns

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Posted July 30, 2019 - 03:24 PM

My understanding is that the W1 Limiter brings the volume level of all parts of a song to a certain level. This allows quieter parts of a song to be as loud as the louder parts. The purpose of this as you mentioned is to prevent parts from being drowned out by crowd noise. For my personal W1 Limiter settings, I put the Ceiling at -0.5 and bump the Threshold to somewhere between 3.0 and 4.0. The quieter your song file is, the higher you will need to put the Threshold. I typical just look at the waveform to determine how much I need to set the Threshold.

 

For in-game, you can turn the crowd noise off completely. I don't know the exact menu navigation by name, but it's in the audio settings.



#3 Shroud

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Posted July 30, 2019 - 05:10 PM

Thanks a lot!

Should I also set the tracks volume to -3 in Magma?

#4 DemonUnicorns

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Posted July 30, 2019 - 06:02 PM

Thanks a lot!

Should I also set the tracks volume to -3 in Magma?

I've never touched that value, so I would just leave it whatever it was.



#5 Freen in Green

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Posted July 31, 2019 - 05:33 AM

Basically, what the W1 limiter is doing (and indeed, all other limiters, since REAPER has a few on-board as well) is turning down all of the louder parts of the audio to be in-line with the quieter parts, and then adding gain to bring the whole track up in volume. Think of it as a compressor, since it kind of is one. The ceiling control is how "loud" the maximum volume is allowed to be on a given track before the limiter just tells it "ok, you can go no louder". 

Generally you'd want to keep this somewhere around -0.5dB like DemonUnicorns suggests. If you're setting the threshold to more than -7, probably try using the volume controls instead first, since that may add noticeable (audible) gain to the track at that point. (Though in mixing your tracks, you might actually want this effect, but for the purposes of customs, probably not. Also W1 is pretty great with keeping tracks relatively clean, unlike the JS Limiter within REAPER.)






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