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#1 AxelLoariaV3

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Posted June 4, 2017 - 08:16 PM

Hello. I'm having some friends coming over to play Rockband next week and I want to know how to load my paid DLC songs and my customs at the same time so I won't have to switch memories in order to play certain songs.

I have an USB stick with my real Gamertag and my paid DLC, along with the RB1 export. And I have another USB stick with my fake profile, TU4 and my customs.

 

I once managed to load all the songs at the same time, I even got RBHP working on RB2DLC along with customs and RB3DLC.

Now, I plugged in both sticks, deleted TU5 from the "official" stick, loaded the game with my custom profile under TU4 and the game loaded all the songs (1054 in total).
The problem is that my DLC songs appear with the RockBand logo on the cover, won't display any audio preview and, if I select one song to play it spits an error loading the song and returns to the music library.

 

Weird thing is, only the RB1 export songs load and play with no problems whatsoever.

 

I don't know how I even got all the songs to work at the same time the first time that I installed RBHP.

I tried deleting both song caches and rebooting the game, I once formated my official stick (I moved my progress to the XboxHDD before) and redowloaded all my DLC, I even re-transdered my licenses to my own console in order to fix this, but it still won't work.

What am I doing wrong?



#2 Whizzer

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Posted June 4, 2017 - 10:15 PM

Most likely, your problem is related to the default installation method of the Harmonies Project. The dummy file is used for creating the song cache, but it can't remain in place, or your DLC songs won't work. It also has to be done whenever the song cache needs to be deleted, for one reason or another.

 

For that reason, I have baked the upgrades into my song files. This takes quite a bit of time but it's a one-time procedure, unless the song receives more updates as part of the project.

 

I've outlined this procedure several times before, but if neither of us can find those old posts, I'll do my best to write another short tutorial. Regardless, get comfortable using C3 CON Tools if you want to go that route.



#3 AxelLoariaV3

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Posted June 4, 2017 - 11:03 PM

No. I installed correctly the RBHP, but that was like 2 months ago. Then I deleted the Upgrades files and played customs and DLC separately. 

 

Now I tried to plug in my two USB sticks to play the songs (without the RBHP) and the DLC shows up, but doesn't work.

 

Funny thing I forgot to mention. My DLC didn't show up at all before I re-transfered my licenses to my own console, just the RB1 export.

Now it shows up, but I can't play it under my custom profile and TU4.



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Posted June 5, 2017 - 12:34 AM

I even re-transdered my licenses to my own console in order to fix this

 

I think you'll also need to redownload all of your dlc so the console can acquire the new licenses before you can play them offline

 

Weird thing is, only the RB1 export songs load and play with no problems whatsoever.

 

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but the only reason why the RB1 export works is because they're CON files, same as customs. As opposed to any other official dlc/exports which are LIVE files.


My customs thread

 

My customs spreadsheet (120+ songs)

 

The 0.1% of Pro Keys players

 


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Posted June 6, 2017 - 01:38 AM

 

I think you'll also need to redownload all of your dlc so the console can acquire the new licenses before you can play them offline

 

 

All right. I guess I'll have to redownload all my DLC to try it out.
It's gonna be a long couple of days



#6 AxelLoariaV3

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Posted June 7, 2017 - 03:58 AM

Hey guys. A friendly update on my issue.

Yep, the problem was lying on my licenses. I re-transfered my licenses to my own console a few weeks ago (Which I found weird because why would I need to retransfer my licenses to my own console?)

I formated my USB stick and redownloaded all my DLC and now I can play safely on my custom profile under TU4 and play both DLC and customs.

Thanks for the advice, Linos!



#7 ajacks02

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Posted June 21, 2017 - 12:57 AM

I am still not sure how to play both custom and purchased songs... can someone help me?

#8 Farottone

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Posted June 21, 2017 - 09:47 AM

What part of the video that explains it is not clear?



#9 ajacks02

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Posted June 21, 2017 - 01:47 PM

I am not seeing a video link. So it's pretty unclear.... where is the link?

#10 ajacks02

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Posted June 21, 2017 - 10:51 PM

You find that video link yet? Still waiting Farottone

#11 TrojanNemo

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Posted June 22, 2017 - 02:32 AM

Dude...get off your ass and find it yourself. It's not farottone's responsibility to hold your hand.

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#12 AxelLoariaV3

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Posted June 22, 2017 - 04:12 AM

Is there a video? :0 

I didn't know.
-Well, in a few words, (as I do it) you need to have plugged in both your DLC and your customs memories/hard drives/USB sticks at the same time.
-Very important! You need to own the licenses to the purchased DLC on the console you pretend to play, as they allow you to play it offline (This means that you can't play customs and DLC at the same time if you don't have the correct licenses on your console)

-Make sure you delete TU5 and song caches before launching the game.

-Play normally under TU4 with your fake/custom-safe profile.

-Have the greatest RockBand party ever



#13 Farottone

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Posted June 22, 2017 - 12:36 PM

Dude...get off your ass and find it yourself. It's not farottone's responsibility to hold your hand.

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You would think since it's something HE needs he would take 10 seconds and check the stickies that we put together over the years, but apparently unless somebody does that for him he won't budge. Well, if he is okay with that, I sure am. :)



#14 ajacks02

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Posted June 22, 2017 - 01:16 PM

Well since there was not a video in the thread at all where am I supposed to go look for it dumb ass. He was was the one that said go look for the video... anyways, I figured it out on my own. And all my songs are one flash drive not two

#15 Farottone

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Posted June 22, 2017 - 11:22 PM

Sometimes on Reddit some threads pop up of people saying we are evil and unreasonable and we abuse our power, making up stories that even other neutral users who have no connection with us call out as lies. Usually the people who throw around those lies are those who have no interest in following the most basic rules like reading the forums rules before posting or checking that some information is available before asking for it.

 

So, just in case this happens again, let's clarifiy that ajacks02 has been banned for insulting an admin/mod after trying very hard to make moderators lose their time by simply not even reading the sticky threads. The 4th stickied thread in this forum is titled TUTORIAL - Playing Custom Songs (Video) and explains exactly what is needed. Everytime any user thinks their time is worth more than that of someone who, without getting paid, helps people have fun for free we get kinda irked. But still we don't act, because that's not enough. We do act when insults are thrown and in general people behave in an unacceptable way.



#16 BornGamerRob

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Posted July 2, 2017 - 03:37 AM

In all fairness, that video addresses how to play customs in a different way than what was being discussed in the thread. The video says to keep two sticks and I think what people were trying to do in this thread was combine that into a single source. So watching the video may not have helped address the need (which ajacks did end up watching apparently as he references the two stick method in his last post).

 

With that said, disrespect is never good, from anyone, IMHO. I think he took your "look for the video" comment as flip and short and responded inappropriately. If he would have come back with what I said above, could have spared him the heartache. If he was truly interested in help, he could have worked it out differently, as I would hope any of us could without fearing a ban.



#17 Farottone

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Posted July 2, 2017 - 10:49 AM

In all fairness, that video addresses how to play customs in a different way than what was being discussed in the thread. The video says to keep two sticks and I think what people were trying to do in this thread was combine that into a single source.

 

That video explains exactly what is needed. The reason you need 2 sticks is not that you differentiate between customs and DLC, nobody has ever had to give up playing DLC along side customs and there is no specific way to play customs and DLC songs together, you can do that from day 1 and there is nothing you need to do to do that. The reason you need 2 sticks is that you want one stick with your official account that can go online, its cache, its savegame (which is not compatible with the TU4 savegame), etc. and one with your customs account. All DLC goes on the hard disk. If you have ever read a single line about how to play customs you know how to play customs and DLC on the same console.

 

If you don't need to ever go online or use TU5 ever again you can use one stick, the logic is the same. There is no scenario in which you have songs on 2 sticks, there never was. That's why I asked "What part of the video that explains it is not clear?" The video is pinned and titled "TUTORIAL - Playing Custom Songs (Video)", so it's impossible to miss, unless you believe that your spending 5 minutes to check the forums is more valuable than someone else doing so. Which unfortunately is what some people think, and we know that because they literally told us so.

 

It's not difficult to understand: nobody here is paid to do support. You don't buy a product that entitles you to some work on our part. Yet you can find literally all you need to play customs and even to author them because people gave up an insane amount of personal time to compile docs and help the community. If anyone is too lazy to look for the content it's fine, it's their prerogative. What is not their prerogative is insulting people, for which anyone will get a ban.

 

What some people don't get (not referring to you of course, I'm saying this in general) is that a community that releases more than 10,000 pieces of UGC that in large part require 10+ hours of work per item does not simply spring up. It takes effort, planning and philosophy. That philosophy is simple: if you are one of the creators you get praises, love and appreciation; if you are one of the users you get a ton of high quality free content but you need to feed the creators. That balance has allowed us to sustain a community of great people. We can't let anyone ignore this basic principle otherwise the whole system collapses. Can you be bothered checking the forums for 20 minutes before posting? If so, great. If not, we will still welcome you but you're gonna be responsible for your own shortcomings. Do you have the time to properly learn how to author? If so, great, we have hours and hours of tutorials. If not, we will still welcome you but you're gonna be responsible for your own shortcomings.



#18 BornGamerRob

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Posted July 2, 2017 - 06:42 PM

 

If you have ever read a single line about how to play customs you know how to play customs and DLC on the same console.

 

I was just trying to explain what MIGHT have happened. Personally, I have read a TON MORE than a single line on this site. I have read other sites, spent countless hours of research in these forums and on the web and pretty much did everything I've done (finally finishing up my first authoring of a song) on my own without needing any help and using more than C3 as a guide.

 

I get that it's aggravating and I totally 100% am with you on how much time you and your crew and everyone who was involved spent working on this project. It's amazing and I think you pretty much know that based on the positive confirmation that comes out of the site every single day. But the video wasn't totally clear to ME. I'm not dumb for that statement, by the way, it just wasn't clear to me from how it was explained. As I said, I figured out how to author songs just from all the documentation. But even when I was reading that, there were certain things that just weren't explained how I would understand them. I don't feel I should be berated for that or told I didn't look somewhere or spend time on a site. I didn't grasp it with the method given. Period. But there are times where I'm reading on these forums the help is not much help at all. It's something we should have known. Well I'm sorry, but I've spent a full week immersed in everything and I'm still going to have questions 'cause I'm just not a human encyclopedia and don't retain everything I read or fully comprehend it in context. I know not everyone is like that, people just ask without first reading, and thus the aggravation. The line is so thin sometimes it's hard to know the difference. 

 

I'm still just playing with the customs and the original songs as I'm not that concerned about getting it altogether. But watching that video put me no closer to accomplishing that. I'm sure others found it perfect for them and they understood it all. I just need a different way of explanation sometimes. Even your further explanation says "there is no specific way to play customs and DLC songs together", which I thought was the point. But I realize I'm responsible for my own shortcomings so it's not that difficult to do more research to find the explanation that will work for me. Let's be okay with each other's differences, styles of communication, etc. instead of tearing each other down because of it.

 

I realize I'm now so far off the follow up post (insult administrators of the site, get a ban - got it), but I also like philosophical debate. =-)



#19 Farottone

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Posted July 2, 2017 - 08:15 PM

But the video wasn't totally clear to ME. I'm not dumb for that statement, by the way, it just wasn't clear to me from how it was explained. As I said, I figured out how to author songs just from all the documentation. But even when I was reading that, there were certain things that just weren't explained how I would understand them. I don't feel I should be berated for that or told I didn't look somewhere or spend time on a site.

Who berated you for asking a clarification? I checked the posts you made and I didn't see anything that stood out. And nobody berated the guy who got banned, I literally asked "What part of the video that explains it is not clear?", I don't think I could have been more clear in asking for what he needed help on than that. ;)



#20 BornGamerRob

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Posted July 2, 2017 - 08:28 PM

Was a general statement of how pretty much all forums work. I tend not to post anything until I'm at the brink of utter desperation and exhaustion to avoid what others endure when they ask questions that are probably outlined in documentation. This helps me avoid looking like I didn't even look. Everybody's been helpful (and so friggin' quick) here to me, but I've literally only asked one question so far. I want to ask like 20 more but that's just disrespectful of people's time.







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