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#1 petegaveglia

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Posted February 17, 2017 - 02:35 AM

I wanted to know, is there a way in reaper to set up a rock band controller that you have connected to PC (I have the wii dongles hooked up, they work fine in emulators and phase shift). Is there a way so that when I am charting a song, I can use the buttons on the controller to chart them, like recording each part. thanks.



#2 IMMCTNTJK

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Posted February 17, 2017 - 02:45 AM

I don't believe so, but if there is, I'll definitely take advantage for the project.

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#3 Alternity

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Posted February 17, 2017 - 03:14 AM

I think EOF offers what you're looking for; but I can't imagine that being precise such as snapped to grid so it will need rework I don't think it's a good idea.

 

Anyways if you want to look at it get EOF at CustomsForge forums and look at the documentation.



#4 Gigakoops

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Posted February 17, 2017 - 03:27 AM

Reaper DOES support this, but it's incredibly wonky and not worth it. I don't know the specifics of how, but I do remember that in the Reaper update notes for 4.22 it says you can use those kind of controllers as MIDI device, but I also remember that you have to strum every single note, which can be tedious for faster sections.



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Posted February 17, 2017 - 04:21 AM

RBN docs teaches you how to do it with Reaper!


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#6 Fat Ha1p3rt

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Posted February 17, 2017 - 05:05 AM

Very curious to learn more about this, as I was just wondering about this the other day.

#7 raynebc

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Posted February 17, 2017 - 05:57 AM

EOF does have this kind of capability, but I agree "live charting" is not a way to get good results in general.  It's more of a novelty.



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Posted February 17, 2017 - 04:34 PM

EOF does have this kind of capability, but I agree "live charting" is not a way to get good results in general.  It's more of a novelty.

I think only if you can edit the chart afterwards, then it would be a great tool.


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#9 Alternity

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Posted February 17, 2017 - 06:50 PM

I think only if you can edit the chart afterwards, then it would be a great tool.

​You can always edit it after. MIDI is editable; always.

 

Though; the ammount of work to make it playable vs charting it from scratch isn't that big of a difference tbh.



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Posted February 17, 2017 - 07:37 PM

​Though; the ammount of work to make it playable vs charting it from scratch isn't that big of a difference tbh.

 

This and you can't copy/paste isn't worth using this way nor can you keep note pitches consistent unless you plan out exactly how you're gonna play it note-for-note in which case you might as well spend that effort actually charting.

 

Plus with all the effort of having to go back and re-align the notes and place/erase missed notes and having to still do the other stuff (overdrive, solos, BREs) it seems like you end up putting in more effort than just straight charting.


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#11 DemonUnicorns

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Posted February 17, 2017 - 10:32 PM

 
This and you can't copy/paste isn't worth using this way nor can you keep note pitches consistent unless you plan out exactly how you're gonna play it note-for-note in which case you might as well spend that effort actually charting.
 
Plus with all the effort of having to go back and re-align the notes and place/erase missed notes and having to still do the other stuff (overdrive, solos, BREs) it seems like you end up putting in more effort than just straight charting.


Exactly this. For this method of charting to be any sort of a time saver, the quality of the chart would be no good. If you end up going back to try and clean up the chart (which you would HAVE to), you're still putting in the time.

What exactly would be appealing about this, exactly? Is it the fact that you could get a "playable" chart in only the time it takes to listen to the song? I would end up changing every single note that I recorded with this method, garunteed.

#12 Farottone

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Posted February 17, 2017 - 10:56 PM

I think if you never ever authored a single song you might think it's not an awful idea. Then you start working on a song and you realise it so much is.



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Posted February 23, 2017 - 11:08 PM

it actually ain't that bad in EOF if u make sure to follow the tutorial on how to set ur pc's latency up correctly for each instrument. 

 

other than that,  it'd just be a case of (like all authoring) putting in the time & getting good at it.  This is the part i personally haven't gotten past!  but it'd be good to see & hear from someone whose actually succeeded with it  :shobon:

 

Ps  ur tempo map & snapping ur playing to the grid obviously becomes even more essential than with the traditional charting method,  so u'd wanna have those processes mastered to have any chance of ur chart being half decent

 

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