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#21 chexmixho

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Posted April 1, 2015 - 09:57 PM

Eh, the lack of keys/pro-keys really lowered my excitement level quite a bit. I bought an XBox One a while back (had to get that Halo MCC) and I currently own an XBox 360 so the DLC compatibility and hopeful instrument compatibility are pluses. But, I really only play with at least 4 friends having one less person able to play is really a bummer. Also, the fact that keys won't work on EXISTING DLC I have already bought for an older game really sucks too. I understand not making it for future songs but man, at least make old songs that HAD keys still have them. Oh well, like Trojan maybe they will add in keys support at some point. I will still most likely pick it up if the setlist/features look awesome enough for me to spend the money on it.

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Posted April 1, 2015 - 09:58 PM

[Actions speak louder than words. "Harmonix I bought RB4, and I'm ready to pay for DLC that adds Keys support" is a whole different message to them than "I'm not buying RB4 until and unless you add Keys support." If that makes sense.


Very true... I remember when RB3 came out and there was no stage kit support. Ther was a similar outrage to the keys situation where a very small group of people begged, pleaded and complained until eventually we were all rocking out on RB3 with full stage kit glory.

I would imagine that the keys people are way larger in population than the stage kit people were. More people will probably be needed to get keys support back, due to the work involved in charting the keys, providing the peripheral, etc., but is definitely not impossible. The stage kit getting patched for RB3 was proof that Harmonix will listen to the diehard fans pleas.

Also, to stay on topic, I can't wait to see what Harmonix has in store for us for the current gen. I have a PS4 right now and will be buying an XBone solely for RB4.
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Posted April 1, 2015 - 10:00 PM

Oh well, like Trojan maybe they will add in keys support at some point. I will still most likely pick it up if the setlist/features look awesome enough for me to spend the money on it.


I really think they will, simply because they have such a large number of people actively clamoring for it. But that's only going to happen if the core game does well. If they lose money, they won't add anything else.

Very true... I remember when RB3 came out and there was no stage kit support. Ther was a similar outrage to the keys situation where a very small group of people begged, pleaded and complained until eventually we were all rocking out on RB3 with full stage kit glory.


I got to RB3 some months after it had come out and they had already patched in Stage Kit support. I can't imagine the game not having had it :eek:

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Posted April 1, 2015 - 10:32 PM

I got to RB4 some months after it had come out and they had already patched in Stage Kit support. I can't imagine the game not having had it :eek:


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#25 Oddbrother

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Posted April 1, 2015 - 11:35 PM

I'll hold my breath until there's reception for it first. I don't have any consoles for the game yet, but I'm glad to see what they're trying to do to make compatibilities in some areas.
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Posted April 2, 2015 - 12:04 AM

Meh, I'm enjoying the Xbox One's interface more :P


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Posted April 2, 2015 - 12:24 AM

Now please, for the love of god, stop trying to twist everything I say into a personal attack


I got nothing else to say to that other than after two years on these forums, I've learned from some of the best people at taking what others say and turning it into personal attacks.


You know, as I was driving home, listening to my young adult, empowered female protagonist post-apocalyptic audiobook Ruins, I couldn't help but reflect on this and think that maybe I was too harsh.

I don't want you to get the feeling that I am out to get you. I certainly don't want to be feared or loathed by the general community. I promise in real life I'm a very sweet, calm guy. So what if I went to jail, one time, for attacking a school bus full of children with a baseball bat. I was young, we all make mistakes, right?. The important thing is I learned my lesson: if you pee on the first guy that tries to intimidate you in jail, nobody else bothers you.

In any case, I wanted to apologize. You can go ahead and add me as a foe, and that will hide my posts. I pinky promise I won't mock you publicly and I won't create forum drama about you while you can't see my posts. Because in the end, I'm here for the entertainment, and it's not nearly as much fun when I get the last word ;)

#28 kobras

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Posted April 2, 2015 - 08:37 AM

I bought GH1, 2, 3, 80's, RB1, RB2, ACDC RB, LRB, TB:RB, GD:RB, RB3 all on day one., so I'm a big fan of the RB franchise.
I have 28 consoles (from NES to PS3-XB360) but not yet PS4, XBO or WI-U
I play RB on XB360.
I prefere to buy a PS4 than a XBO, but I can buy an XBO just for RB4 to keep my previous DLC and instrument compatibility.
I don't care for pro guitar/bass but the lack of key is a cold shower for me.
An other thing is I can't complain about lose customs compatibility (because it is not legal and can can be piracy at some point), but lose hamony for pre-RB3 songs would be make me sad.
So a this point, I have interest in RB4, but I prefere wait for more details (maybe at E3) to be exited or disapointed.
We don't know now what new features, songs, or game mode will be in this game so we can't have a good judgement.

#29 Jusey1

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Posted April 2, 2015 - 12:17 PM

I couldn't give a rats ass about it honestly. Removing Keys and making it PS4/Xbone only made it a deal breaker,


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Posted April 2, 2015 - 12:32 PM

Given that we had some tension yesterday I want to be very clear on this: it's a genuine question about your habits, I have no interest in criticizing people not buying the game, I'm just curious about the thought process. So...

I'm wondering about the people quitting the franchise because of keys and how they came to the conclusion. Have you only played RB3 because the previous games didn't have keys or did you come to gradually only play keys with RB3 making the other instruments not interesting anymore? Or is it more of a "with no full band experience it's not worth it anymore for me" thing? Does this also mean that apart from RB3 customs your foray in the rhythm games world is over or will you transition to dance or Blitz-like games or to other games that offer some kind of support for keys?

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Posted April 2, 2015 - 02:03 PM

I am kind of surprised at my lack of enthusiasm for RB4. I was waiting for it for so long, that I think the time just passed for me. I do still plan on getting it though, but it's going to feel a bit bittersweet.

I have grave doubts about whether the songs I want the most have even a slim hope of making the setlist. At least customs give me a chance to get those songs in the game. I don't want to 'blame' customs; I think it's just my bad luck in what I like.

Hopefully the awesome features and kickass setlist will be enough to change my mind.

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Posted April 2, 2015 - 02:16 PM

I have a One and my previous DLC was on the 360 which is great, so I don't have to worry about that. My biggest concern is HMX making sure that legacy devices will work. I have Ions that I spent a lot of money upgrading; I better be able to use those.

Keys are fun, but they were in no way a deal breaker. I've known how to play the piano since I was younger, and my drive for keys in RB was never that high for some reason. Felt different playing on there, and the interface just didn't sit well with me.

#33 PikminGuts92

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Posted April 2, 2015 - 03:22 PM

I'm not that excited about RB4. Sure, it'll be nice playing my song library on new hardware with improved graphics but I feel RB4 is a huge step backwards creatively. I can understand not continuing to author pro guitar and keys going forward but to not support it even for existing songs is a huge slap in the face for players like me who spent $320 on the Squier w/ MPA, not to mention the premium price for upgrades. I don't own an Xbox One and I'm not sure RB4 alone will be justification enough for a purchase if I can get the same experience from a game released in 2008.

#34 kobras

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Posted April 2, 2015 - 03:25 PM

I'm wondering about the people quitting the franchise because of keys and how they came to the conclusion.


The feeling is why going to RB4 which is the same of previous but with somes features deleted.
This feeling is present because, we don't know what this 4st episode will give us new, exept 1080p/60fps (wich is not a real argument to change game and system) and of course new songs. But I'm sure they will surprise us positively and we will change our mind at this moment.

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Posted April 2, 2015 - 03:31 PM

The feeling is why going to RB4 which is the same of previous but with somes features deleted.


But it's not the same. That's the point. You guys hear "no keys and no pro g/b" and you're assuming we're back to RB2. What if they massively improve the vocals and harmonies experience? What if they massively improve the online experience and make it worthwhile? We don't know enough at this point. They're not going to port RB2 and call it RB4, because for that they could have just ported RB3. Have some hope that they know what they're doing with their own product :)

#36 kobras

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Posted April 2, 2015 - 04:49 PM

We don't know enough at this point.

That's exactly what I say. And until they announce the new features and improvements, the only thing we know is a regression. But I have no doubt that they will be great things, but without knowing what, it is difficult to be excited.

What if...

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#37 TrojanNemo

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Posted April 2, 2015 - 04:56 PM

but without knowing what, it is difficult to be excited.


So instead of be excited for what it could be, you're not excited because of what you know it's NOT going to be. It's the other side of the same coin. I'm saying look on the bright side. Hope for something great. Don't already give up on it because of the lack of keys/pro g/b.

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Posted April 2, 2015 - 04:59 PM

but without knowing what, it is difficult to be excited.


So instead of be excited for what it could be, you're not excited because of what you know it's NOT going to be. It's the other side of the same coin. I'm saying look on the bright side. Hope for something great. Don't already give up on it because of the lack of keys/pro g/b.


To be fair, it IS the thread for people who are NOT excited about RB4. :)

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Posted April 2, 2015 - 05:02 PM

Bah. Details.

#40 jokeman23

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Posted April 2, 2015 - 05:26 PM

I am reasonably excited but i think it sucks that the game lacks keys.




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