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#41 pumpkinpie

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Posted April 10, 2016 - 02:53 PM

similar to yegods above, I am trying to follow the guide and am not getting very far.

 

I downloaded all the tools, found a mid file, and imported that along with the mp3 into reaper but that is as far as I got !!

 

I mean I moved the start of the track to 3.1.00 and double click on an instrument track but I have no idea how to tell if they lined up properly. 

 

And this just has me baffled:  I get the first part about extending the track but after that..

4.1.4 Now we do a foolproof copypaste. First of all, drag the MIDI guitar track so

that it extends to the very beginning, at measure 1.1.00. DON’T MOVE IT!

You need to drag the left end so it touches the beginning of the project, so

that it looks like all the other MIDI tracks in the project. Now double click

the track to open it. Look at the bottom of the track and you will see the

PART GUITAR text event. Drag that to 1.1.00. Now you simply select all and

copy.

 

And when picking a guitar track, I see overdrive, distortion, melody and not sure which to pick.

 

Anyways, I thought I was pretty good at following instructions but I am kinda lost here.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated as I would love to be able to contribute to the community.



#42 Farottone

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Posted April 10, 2016 - 04:43 PM

I mean I moved the start of the track to 3.1.00 and double click on an instrument track but I have no idea how to tell if they lined up properly. 
 
 
And when picking a guitar track, I see overdrive, distortion, melody and not sure which to pick.


Are you saying you can't make a connection between the audio and the notes on screen? If that's the issue, I'm not sure I can help, understanding what happens in the song with the added help of the MIDI notes/sheet music is a fundamental pre-requisite of authoring. If it's not the issue, can you elaborate more on what got you stumped?



#43 ihatecompvir

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Posted April 11, 2016 - 05:24 AM

Thanks for this guide. I made a custom using the RBN docs a few months ago but lost it (song was Marina and the Diamonds - I Am Not a Robot). It was also a complete shit show, which had bad tempo mapping and a horrible venue track. I think I'll go back and do it more properly and follow this guide, then release it here. Some people might appreciate it, even though the song itself is fairly simple, but I mainly made it so I could later sing it.



#44 brystmar

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Posted January 30, 2017 - 01:33 AM

I've never authored anything before but am eager to learn.  Having trouble getting Reaper (v4.22) properly configured right now.

 

I added the C3 Custom RB3 Template.RPP file to to %appdata%\Reaper\ProjectTemplates and copied the W1 Limiter DLLs into both that folder and the \Program files\Reaper\Plugins folders.  Opening the C3 template in Reaper gives me the following errors:

 


The following effects were in the project file and are not available. REAPER will keep their configurations, but things may not sound as desired.
 
Master: VST: W1 Limiter (George Yohng)
Track 1: VST: W1 Limiter (George Yohng)
Track 3: VSTi: RBN Preview (RBN)
Track 4: VSTi: RBN Preview (RBN)
Track 5: VSTi: RBN Preview (RBN)
Track 13: VSTi: RBN Preview (RBN)


#45 Farottone

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Posted January 30, 2017 - 01:34 AM

You need to install the RBN plugins that you can find along with all other tools in the opening post of the stickied thread.



#46 brystmar

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Posted January 30, 2017 - 04:25 AM

You need to install the RBN plugins that you can find along with all other tools in the opening post of the stickied thread.

I did!  I pointed it to the install directory for my Reaper install.  I don't know what the end file structure is supposed to look like, so it's difficult for me to verify if it was properly installed or not.

 

In case it matters, Reaper installed to \program files\REAPER (x64)\



#47 Alternity

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Posted January 30, 2017 - 04:59 AM


In case it matters, Reaper installed to \program files\REAPER (x64)\

 

Try with the 32 bit version.



#48 brystmar

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Posted January 30, 2017 - 05:05 AM

 

Try with the 32 bit version.

Help me understand your suggestion.  Are you saying I should install the 32-bit version of Reaper, the plugin(s), or something else?



#49 Alternity

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Posted January 30, 2017 - 05:10 AM

Help me understand your suggestion.  Are you saying I should install the 32-bit version of Reaper, the plugin(s), or something else?

REAPER 32bit version. IIRC I had troubles using the RBN plugins on the 64bit version of REAPER.



#50 brystmar

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Posted January 30, 2017 - 05:36 AM

REAPER 32bit version. IIRC I had troubles using the RBN plugins on the 64bit version of REAPER.

I'll give it a shot later this week when I have more free time.  Thanks!



#51 Farottone

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Posted January 30, 2017 - 12:24 PM

In case it matters, Reaper installed to \program files\REAPER (x64)\

 

You can't use the 64 bit version.



#52 brystmar

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Posted February 1, 2017 - 03:08 AM

Think I finally got it installed properly using the 32-bit version.  For posterity, the final step was adding the W1 Limiter.dll VST plugin.  Merely adding it to the \Reaper\Plugins\ folder didn't work.  Here's how to properly load the plugin:

 


1) Put the W1 Limiter.dll file in a folder.  I chose to create the folder C:\Program Files (x86)\Reaper\Plugins\VST and threw it in there.

2) In Reaper, press [Ctrl] + [P] (Windows) or [Cmd] + [,] (Mac)

3) Plug-ins > VST

4) Add the path from Step 1

5) Click Clear Cache / Re-Scan

 

Might need to restart Reaper for the changes to take effect.

 

Back to watching tutorial videos for me :)



#53 BarryBlaster

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Posted March 21, 2017 - 12:31 AM

Can some one help lay the fundation to making a custom song? Thi ia first time thing for me and I am really interested in making a customand I have read the tutorial and I am having trobles understanding it. I kind of need a layout an what files I need to make the custom I have reaper, plugins, ext but what file I need that could almost be charted ar audio file or some video tutorials or a step by step tutorial. I would apreciat if some one could help me. Thank you 



#54 Chips

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Posted March 21, 2017 - 01:12 AM

Can some one help lay the fundation to making a custom song? Thi ia first time thing for me and I am really interested in making a customand I have read the tutorial and I am having trobles understanding it. I kind of need a layout an what files I need to make the custom I have reaper, plugins, ext but what file I need that could almost be charted ar audio file or some video tutorials or a step by step tutorial. I would apreciat if some one could help me. Thank you 

 

Use the below video as your all-purpose starting point, along with using the tutorial from this thread as a reference along the way. 

 

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/49724270



#55 BarryBlaster

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Posted March 22, 2017 - 03:07 AM

Thank you so much Chips! This will really make things so munch more understanding to make my first custom! All the best and thanks again!



#56 BarryBlaster

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Posted March 23, 2017 - 11:47 PM

Could anyone please tell me what magma means when it says (ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (MIDI FILE): Multiple tracks share the name BEAT) ? Thank you



#57 TrojanNemo

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Posted March 24, 2017 - 12:34 AM

It means that more than one track in your MIDI file have the name BEAT. I mean, that's pretty self explanatory.



#58 BarryBlaster

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Posted March 24, 2017 - 02:01 AM

I understand now the problem was right in front of me



#59 BarryBlaster

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Posted March 24, 2017 - 02:01 AM

Thanks



#60 BarryBlaster

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Posted March 31, 2017 - 11:08 PM

I have authored Expert Drums for the song I am working on, this is my first custom and I would like to test te drums in game but when I try to export the song to rb3con magma gives me these errors could anyone lead me in the direction to fix these problems? Thank you in advance.
MIDI Compiler: Starting...
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (BEAT): MIDI events at [92:4:120] after the end event at [92:4:000]
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (MIDI FILE): Could not find MIDI track authored for guitar, possibly due to incorrect track name event
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (MIDI FILE): Could not find MIDI track authored for bass, possibly due to incorrect track name event
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (MIDI FILE): Could not find MIDI track authored for vocals, possibly due to incorrect track name event
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS): No gems after drum fill at [20:2:120] for easy difficulty
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS): No gems after drum fill at [30:2:180] for easy difficulty
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS): No gems after drum fill at [42:1:180] for easy difficulty
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS): No gems after drum fill at [57:4:180] for easy difficulty
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS): No gems after drum fill at [65:2:120] for easy difficulty
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS): No gems after drum fill at [69:1:240] for easy difficulty
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty easy: phrase at [12:1:420-12:2:420] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty easy: phrase at [16:2:120-16:3:120] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty easy: phrase at [22:2:000-22:3:120] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty easy: phrase at [24:2:000-24:3:120] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty easy: phrase at [26:1:360-26:3:000] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty easy: phrase at [28:4:240-29:3:120] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty easy: phrase at [34:2:120-34:3:120] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty easy: phrase at [38:2:060-38:3:060] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty easy: phrase at [40:2:000-40:3:000] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty easy: phrase at [44:1:120-44:2:240] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty easy: phrase at [46:1:060-46:2:180] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty easy: phrase at [48:1:000-48:2:120] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty easy: phrase at [52:1:120-52:1:420] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty easy: phrase at [55:4:360-56:1:180] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty easy: phrase at [59:3:240-60:1:000] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty easy: phrase at [63:1:360-63:3:120] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty easy: phrase at [66:2:360-67:3:000] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty easy: phrase at [70:2:420-71:2:000] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS): No gems after drum fill at [20:2:120] for medium difficulty
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS): No gems after drum fill at [30:2:180] for medium difficulty
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS): No gems after drum fill at [42:1:180] for medium difficulty
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS): No gems after drum fill at [57:4:180] for medium difficulty
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS): No gems after drum fill at [65:2:120] for medium difficulty
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS): No gems after drum fill at [69:1:240] for medium difficulty
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty medium: phrase at [12:1:420-12:2:420] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty medium: phrase at [16:2:120-16:3:120] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty medium: phrase at [22:2:000-22:3:120] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty medium: phrase at [24:2:000-24:3:120] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty medium: phrase at [26:1:360-26:3:000] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty medium: phrase at [28:4:240-29:3:120] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty medium: phrase at [34:2:120-34:3:120] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty medium: phrase at [38:2:060-38:3:060] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty medium: phrase at [40:2:000-40:3:000] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty medium: phrase at [44:1:120-44:2:240] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty medium: phrase at [46:1:060-46:2:180] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty medium: phrase at [48:1:000-48:2:120] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty medium: phrase at [52:1:120-52:1:420] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty medium: phrase at [55:4:360-56:1:180] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty medium: phrase at [59:3:240-60:1:000] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty medium: phrase at [63:1:360-63:3:120] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty medium: phrase at [66:2:360-67:3:000] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty medium: phrase at [70:2:420-71:2:000] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS): No gems after drum fill at [20:2:120] for hard difficulty
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS): No gems after drum fill at [30:2:180] for hard difficulty
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS): No gems after drum fill at [42:1:180] for hard difficulty
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS): No gems after drum fill at [57:4:180] for hard difficulty
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS): No gems after drum fill at [65:2:120] for hard difficulty
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS): No gems after drum fill at [69:1:240] for hard difficulty
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty hard: phrase at [12:1:420-12:2:420] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty hard: phrase at [16:2:120-16:3:120] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty hard: phrase at [22:2:000-22:3:120] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty hard: phrase at [24:2:000-24:3:120] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty hard: phrase at [26:1:360-26:3:000] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty hard: phrase at [28:4:240-29:3:120] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty hard: phrase at [34:2:120-34:3:120] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty hard: phrase at [38:2:060-38:3:060] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty hard: phrase at [40:2:000-40:3:000] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty hard: phrase at [44:1:120-44:2:240] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty hard: phrase at [46:1:060-46:2:180] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty hard: phrase at [48:1:000-48:2:120] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty hard: phrase at [52:1:120-52:1:420] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty hard: phrase at [55:4:360-56:1:180] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty hard: phrase at [59:3:240-60:1:000] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty hard: phrase at [63:1:360-63:3:120] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty hard: phrase at [66:2:360-67:3:000] has no gems
ERROR: MIDI Compiler: (PART DRUMS) Difficulty hard: phrase at [70:2:420-71:2:000] has no gems
MIDI Compiler: Done.
ERROR: Project Compiler: Midi compiler failed.





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