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HOW TO: Tempo Map and Author Drums [VIDEO]


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#1 drummerockband

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Posted July 21, 2014 - 12:56 PM

Hey guys. So these past few months I've heard some people ask about tutorials and other similar things so I decided I would make my own tempo mapping and drum authoring tutorial video.

VIDEO LINK: (spoiler: leaked song for future release)
http://dai.ly/x21tkuh


Disclaimer: Please keep in mind this may not be C3's stance on how to chart drums (even though I release through C3), but rather the way I usually chart drums and how I figure out what is what. Also, apologies if I seem a bit quiet some parts, I've never done anything like this so the stuttering and mic crackling is something I could work on fixing for next time if I decide to do more tutorials.

Please watch the video, and if it's still confusing, I've provided this list of drum authoring tips.

Drum Authoring Tips:
  • Finding a kick drum is easier if you're looking for the big "punch" or "kick" of the bass drum. It's easier to make sure its a drum and not a bass guitar by listening if the pitch changes. For example, you'd know its the bass guitar because the pitch of the notes change. In most cases, the pitch and the duration of the kick drum is the same and quick.
  • If you have trouble charting drums, try doing a pass on each note throughout the entire song. For example, chart just the hi-hat notes, and then start over the song and chart the snare notes, etc.
  • You can tell if the notes you hear are a tom note because even if they may sound similar to the bass drum, the ring/duration of the tom drum is usually a little bit longer than the bass drum and even a different pitch in most cases.
  • Don't be afraid to copy/paste! It really saves a lot of authoring time and headache, so if you're charting a standard 4/4 time song, sometimes the drum part will be really repetitive. Who wants to spend an hour charting the same beat by hand, when you can just chart it all in probably 5 minutes? :)
  • Make sure drum fill markers are all drum fill midi notes (shown in video), and usually drum fills are a measure long. Make sure your drum fill ends on the downbeat! (in most cases it should end on the downbeat for best effect).

Anyway, I hope this helps some of you beginners/novices/C3ers to make great drum customs!

#2 DoNotPassGo

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Posted July 21, 2014 - 01:14 PM

Nice man. This will definitely be helpful for people starting out.

In all honesty, I've been helping a lot of people recently with Tempo Mapping issues recently, and I was thinking about making a video similar to this. You have a great intro to help beginners get into making correct maps! Drum help never hurts either ha.

Would you be alright if, in the near future, I make a video myself solely focusing on the Tempo Mapping, and make reference to yours as a base point. This is nothing against you, I would like to further elaborate on some of the other aspects of Tempo Mapping. Personally, I do not like the Q method for mapping as it can run into some weird issues when dealing with Time Signatures, and it is not very helpful when the tempo changes greatly inside a single measure (ie, slow downs and such).

If I was to post mine soon, I would feel like I was trying to show you up or something; when that is not my intention at all. Think of mine as more of a focused Tempo Mapping video at an Intermediate level. Just making sure you'd be alright with that.

#3 questionmark

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Posted July 21, 2014 - 01:15 PM

Thanks for this! Looking forward to watching later and maybe taking another crack at things.

#4 drummerockband

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Posted July 21, 2014 - 01:23 PM

Nice man. This will definitely be helpful for people starting out.

Would you be alright if, in the near future, I make a video myself solely focusing on the Tempo Mapping, and make reference to yours as a base point.


Yes! By all means go for it! I won't be offended or anything, and to be honest, I probably could have went into more detail with tempo mapping in this video, but since it was basic 4/4 time I just did the basic way of doing it.

#5 DoNotPassGo

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Posted July 21, 2014 - 01:39 PM

Yeah, working on a Rush album made sure I learned the tricks and issues involved with Time Signatures and sometimes drastic BPM changes haha.

#6 Nightmare Lyra

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Posted July 21, 2014 - 01:47 PM

Minor thing that might help is also to put the audio track right over the Drum track, that way you can easily see the peaks in minimalistic/multitrack songs which is sometimes useful just for the sake of orientation.

Also, when copypasting notes, the best thing to do is mark the notes you wish to copy, hold the CTRL button then drag the notes, this will create a perfect copy that won't get unquantized which could happen with the regular copy paste method.

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#7 Colonel 32dll

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Posted July 21, 2014 - 03:17 PM

Oh, this is awesome! :wth: :aaaaa: :what:

Just yesterday (I shit you not) I told my wife I was going to start a thread asking if any of the awesome drummer/drum charters we have around here would consider creating a tutorial on how to decipher the drums and "transcribe" what you hear. Before I even had the chance - BAM, here it is! :v:

Drums are alien to me - I've never really focused on them while listening to music, I am completely ignorant to all terminology (I mean all) and I've played drums in RB twice in the past seven years. There's been an itch in the back of my mind lately urging me to learn how to play them on RB and maybe start charting them - it would allow me to produce some full band customs on my own. :c00l:

Thanks for this, man, I can't wait to check it out. This is going to be a popular thread. :)

#8 StackOverflow0x

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Posted July 21, 2014 - 03:46 PM

Oh, this is awesome! :wth: :aaaaa: :what:

Just yesterday (I shit you not) I told my wife I was going to start a thread asking if any of the awesome drummer/drum charters we have around here would consider creating a tutorial on how to decipher the drums and "transcribe" what you hear. Before I even had the chance - BAM, here it is! :v:

Drums are alien to me - I've never really focused on them while listening to music, I am completely ignorant to all terminology (I mean all) and I've played drums in RB twice in the past seven years. There's been an itch in the back of my mind lately urging me to learn how to play them on RB and maybe start charting them - it would allow me to produce some full band customs on my own. :c00l:

Thanks for this, man, I can't wait to check it out. This is going to be a popular thread. :)

Totally agree. I bought drums about 2 years ago and played them a bit (enough to play Hard). Since charting, it's the last thing I'll learn. I couldn't identify a tom from a snare if my life was on it.

#9 Nunchuck

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Posted July 21, 2014 - 04:00 PM

Thank you. The video was well done and informative. I learned some stuff. This will be a good learning tool.

#10 CrazyCanuck

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Posted July 22, 2014 - 02:31 AM

Nice job on the video. Thanks.

#11 t-20-07

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Posted July 22, 2014 - 05:01 PM

Thanks for this!

#12 Exxucus

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Posted July 23, 2014 - 06:50 AM

Thanks so much for this! Tempo mapping always seemed very intimidating, especially for songs with difficult to read peaks/valleys, but using the metronome is a great way to do it by ear.

#13 nineteenforever

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Posted June 26, 2016 - 07:11 PM

Thanks, I'll refer to this if I get stuck drumming.

 

Quick question though, 

 

Are you actually Michael Cera? :D



#14 TrojanNemo

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Posted June 26, 2016 - 07:36 PM

Again, stop posting in two-year-old threads unless you have something constructive to add.






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