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Metric (The Clash at Demonhead) - "Black Sheep"


Metric (The Clash at Demonhead) Black Sheep

Release Type: User
Audio Type: Single-track
Reductions: Yes (Authored)
Pitched Vocals: Yes
Vocals Gender: Female (2)

Band:
Guitar:
Drums:
Vocals:
Bass:
Keys:
Pro Keys:
Pro Guitar:
Pro Bass:

Author Notes

Special thanks to the following people:
PIK for charting the original work and allowing me to edit it.
uppyb0t for correcting the drums from my edit and the original, and for play testing.
PikedPike for correcting my pro keys adding more to them as well, also play tested.
Lastly the community for showing an interest in this song and providing the tools needed to finally address the glaring issues.
 
Update 7/29/20 (Hopefully the last major update)
- With the help of Rubydanger's tempo mapping guide I've finally addressed the syncing issue, so please no more on that. Also, hopefully improved the audio based on that same guide video.
- Guitar intro and 2intro/bridge has been reverted to how PIK had it, same goes with Pro Guitar.
- More Updates to difficulties to consign with the note changes.
- Uppybot has updated the drums to be as accurate to the source as possible, plus drum animations updates (At the cost of it being harder).
- PikedPike has corrected Pro Keys and added another part to the song (the synthesizer towards the end).
 
General notes:
- Pro Guitar and Bass are based off TAB chart at Ultimate Guitar.
- Keys play piano and synthesizer.
- Harmony isn't very much.
 
I know it's been terrible at release (and didn't exactly improve very much over the course of about 2 months) mainly because I can't keep my standards in check and lack of listening to music (The only time I listen to music is when I play it... let that sink in) but I reassure you that I'll keep improving and will address these issues.
What's left? The Pro Guitar/Bass player to PM me next about my chart :P
Dryvox/ Lip syncing fixes maybe...
Outside the song, my older works are gonna through a revamp as well (mainly to address the tempo or the lack of and general improvements.)  
Enjoy!
OLD NOTES: [url="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cn0he-sN-ov3SjWLLWAM5cnJeAmpEiUKoLq-AUAHgbs/edit?usp=sharing"]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cn0he-sN-ov3SjWLLWAM5cnJeAmpEiUKoLq-AUAHgbs/edit?usp=sharing[/url]
 
 
 



26 Comments

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glenh2oman
May 21, 2020

Awesome to have both versions available now, thanks!

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Harrug
May 21, 2020

Love this version as much as the original, thank you!

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Moocartoons
May 21, 2020

Synced the music video to this chart if you need it. -187500

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Exxucus
May 21, 2020

I didn't even realize there was another chart of Black Sheep, but thank you!  Love this song, and glad it got an overhaul.

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WarMarioDragon
May 21, 2020

Synced the music video to this chart if you need it. -187500

That was the original plan, but I didn't like the conversation at the start. Thanks for the feedback.

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Moocartoons
May 22, 2020

That was the original plan, but I didn't like the conversation at the start. Thanks for the feedback.

Yeah the beginning is awkward, but once you're in the the meat of the song, It's all good. It also just so happened I finished syncing up literally every other Metric chart the day before on my spreadsheet the day before, and loaded up c3 the next morning to go "DARN IT" MY LIST IS INCOMPLETE AGAIN. :P

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JohnSmith2007
June 3, 2020

This is really out of sync. please fix it

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WarMarioDragon
June 3, 2020

This is really out of sync. please fix it

I will look into it, but from what I've noticed during gameplay it was some guitar and drum gameplay that was out of sync, but if anyone else has noticed this syncing issue please feel free to leave your feedback either here or PM me Thank you.

Update - Yeah now I see it this shouldn't take long.

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uppyb0t
June 4, 2020

The timing keeps fluctuating.

 

Midway through the song it won't even register my snare on the disco beat.

 

It feels a hint too quick at the beginning, then manageable, then the notes are too late by 2nd verse and by halfway they are way too quick again.

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WarMarioDragon
June 4, 2020

The timing keeps fluctuating.   Midway through the song it won't even register my snare on the disco beat.   It feels a hint too quick at the beginning, then manageable, then the notes are too late by 2nd verse and by halfway they are way too quick again.
Yeah getting the timings down is very difficult without having a good program or ears to separate the instrument sounds when I was editing the chart (my songs are made up of one audio file and a vocal only one for lip syncing) I'm assuming this is drums specifically? I will look into it tomorrow most likely, though I didn't notice it as much as you described. Appreciate the feedback regardless and hope to update you and those interested soon. :)

Update -  Yeah I see it but only during Verse 2 as mentioned, unfortunately, nothing else mentioned doesn't seem to be visible to me at least, but ill try to correct what I can, so hopefully be done before the end of the day, if all goes well.

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That Unknown Guy
June 12, 2020

If I may add some criticism to this chart, the quality is pretty poor on the audio (let me tell ya that video is a bunch of shit saying it's 320kbps) and I think it would be better if you used this version of the song as it is in much higher quality (https://www.youtube....h?v=yxlhHogEix4) and use 4K Video Downloader to download the video (If you have not been using it already).

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WarMarioDragon
June 13, 2020

If I may add some criticism to this chart, the quality is pretty poor on the audio (let me tell ya that video is a bunch of shit saying it's 320kbps) and I think it would be better if you used this version of the song as it is in much higher quality (https://www.youtube....h?v=yxlhHogEix4) and use 4K Video Downloader to download the video (If you have not been using it already).

Fair enough I wasn't really into music as much as I am now, so there's a good chance I didn't even notice it. Just click the link and god damn that sounds so clean I didn't realize how much of a difference it is. Hmm, I'll look into getting it to line up with the chart maybe later on today or likely tomorrow. I'm assuming 4K Video Downloader is free? Regardless thanks very much for the feedback much appreciated :)

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That Unknown Guy
June 13, 2020

Fair enough I wasn't really into music as much as I am now, so there's a good chance I didn't even notice it. Just click the link and god damn that sounds so clean I didn't realize how much of a difference it is. Hmm, I'll look into getting it to line up with the chart maybe later on today or likely tomorrow. I'm assuming 4K Video Downloader is free? Regardless thanks very much for the feedback much appreciated :)

Much appreciated. Also yes 4K Video Downloader is free. Acai recommends it himself.

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Cuban Legend
June 14, 2020

thanks for this update! :D

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uppyb0t
July 20, 2020

Me again...

 

Still having sync issues. Everything is beautiful up until the second chorus. Once it hits, combos are impossible to hold for me on drums.

 

Also, your drum fill lanes for activating OD need to end one note before the intended activation point or you get an extra cymbal that feels out of place. If you want it to end and use the cymbal that is currently there, you need to stop just before that note.

 

Otherwise fantastic ;)

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WarMarioDragon
July 20, 2020

Me again...

 

Still having sync issues. Everything is beautiful up until the second chorus. Once it hits, combos are impossible to hold for me on drums.

 

Also, your drum fill lanes for activating OD need to end one note before the intended activation point or you get an extra cymbal that feels out of place. If you want it to end and use the cymbal that is currently there, you need to stop just before that note.

 

Otherwise fantastic ;)

Thanks for the feedback and I'll correct the OD soon, but unfortunately the syncing issues aren't clear to me. Just played the song with different instruments and can't seem to notice the issue with other instruments. I did notice something with drums (though I play hard pro), but it was only for a brief moment before I rolled back into beat. I will do more play testing in the next following days in hopes of figuring it out. I'm glad to have addressed some of the issues you and others have brought up, and will continue to improve upon the songs I chart/edit.

Update- turns out it needs to be tempo mapped as a based wasn't cutting it

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Nickzilla
July 22, 2020

Hey friend, I just want to say how awesome it is that you keep updating this to fix stuff. I know it isn't fun to keep doing the same thing over and over, so I really appreciate the work you're putting in. 

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Cuban Legend
July 25, 2020

Hey friend, I just want to say how awesome it is that you keep updating this to fix stuff. I know it isn't fun to keep doing the same thing over and over, so I really appreciate the work you're putting in. 

yeah, i agree! thanks for all this effort, its a wonderful piece of work you're putting in here for the RB3 community!

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WarMarioDragon
July 25, 2020

Hey friend, I just want to say how awesome it is that you keep updating this to fix stuff. I know it isn't fun to keep doing the same thing over and over, so I really appreciate the work you're putting in. 

 

 

yeah, i agree! thanks for all this effort, its a wonderful piece of work you're putting in here for the RB3 community!

Thanks guys I appreciate the feedback and I know it was ROUGH when it first came out, but I was determined to address the issues as much as I am able to. People like uppyb0t went out of their way to help me out to correct glaring issues and now I have a MUCH better understanding when it comes to charting songs and tempo mapping. PIK is also to be thanked for making the original. Also, I didn't want to put it up as updated because I feel like I'm spamming at that point.

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Nickzilla
July 25, 2020

Well, I for one don't mind seeing the track at the top of the list again. Thank you again for putting in all this effort, and thanks to the awesome community here who help out so much!

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JohnSmith2007
July 26, 2020

The Drums are still insanely overcharted, especially with the hi-hats during the chorus's. Also, The  Drum bits for bridge_a, verse_2a, verse_2b, and the last four double-kicks in the outro are out of sync. Again.

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WarMarioDragon
July 26, 2020

The Drums are still insanely overcharted, especially with the hi-hats during the chorus's. Also, The  Drum bits for bridge_a, verse_2a, verse_2b, and the last four double-kicks in the outro are out of sync. Again.

That's how it is for the Hi-hats as its the same in PIK's version. uppyb0t helped me with the syncing issues and said it played fine (I played it and didn't notice it until the last 2 kicks of the songs), but I'll bring it up with him.
Update - the chart is fine, but tempo mapping needs more work we'll be working on it
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JohnSmith2007
July 26, 2020

That's how it is for the Hi-hats as its the same in PIK's version. uppyb0t helped me with the syncing issues and said it played fine (I played it and didn't notice it until the last 2 kicks of the songs), but I'll bring it up with him.
Update - the chart is fine, but tempo mapping needs more work we'll be working on it

Yeah like i said, those sections are not in sync. I viewed the file in both Moonscraper & REAPER, its painfully obvious from what i'm seeing.

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WarMarioDragon
July 26, 2020

Yeah like i said, those sections are not in sync. I viewed the file in both Moonscraper & REAPER, its painfully obvious from what i'm seeing.

If it wasn't obvious enough that I'm still relatively new to all of this, so tempo mapping completely flew by me. But I started watching Rubydanger tempo mapping guide and I know now and hope to correct this issue once and for all. For future reference, I'll be more aware of the many tools needed for making customs, but stating the problem doesn't help newer charters, such as myself, at all. I like that you keep constantly coming back to try the song in hopes of it finally being fixed and I appreciate it, but would it be that much more effort to ask questions that could lead to finding the problem? Like "It's so out of sync are you sure you are tempo mapping?" Trust me its not as simple as it sounds as I could have mistakenly taken the "not sync issue" for the notes, the audio, or some other factor (being a noob the possibilities are endless). Before you say "Well you should have read the docs," I don't roll like that, I'm a visual learner I have to see it be done. I watch videos first and if things are missing or if there's a question I have that I can't find the answer to, whether on the forms or though other people, then I'll resort to the docs (though I love to experiment and see how reaper/magma/onyx/etc. would react).

TLDR- I found the issue and will correct it within the next couple of days. I'm sorry to those who have been pain painstakingly waiting for a playable version of the song.I'll try my best to avoid noobish mistakes for my future works. I know you guys mean for the best as I'm asked constantly to fix it, but if its clearly a noob making charts and leaving what YOU take it as obvious mistakes don't assume that I'LL see it the same way, at the moment at least.

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Cuban Legend
July 29, 2020

this is so full featured and updated, wow! It makes me wanna buy a RB3 Keyboard! (lol JK i already have one)